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Indian Husband: a Vote Bank

rohandharesh

Year on year the ratio of married men v/s married women suicides have seen an increase in the husbands’ suicides and the domination of the husbands’ suicide figures have been phenomenal and never marginal. The ratio is almost double, ** married women commit suicide out of hundred and ** married men (rounded figures-NCRB), yet there are media news and blogs that get comments and sympathies that speak about the **% be it suicides or reservation and as usual men are discounted or rather forgotten as a duty. I had realized how Indian mentality is dormant in its reactive character that leaves the pro active attitude to lag from behind as pretension of sleep leads from front. And we just discount ourselves. I realized the Indian male’s plight when I met another rigid friend of mine in the train who changed his attitude the moment he realized that I am in a marital mess, instead of just being normal he vanished in the crowd as if he was telling me “Bro well you are ALONE, and you need to be left alone”. I have seen this attitude in many desperate new comers in the ***a weekly guidance meets who want us to ‘now shake the world’ just because now they are affected. Else who cared till date. Lucky I never under estimated the boy’s side but definitely stopped supporting feminists once I realized the status of law and Indian men. This mental attitude is injurious to health as Indian men are resembling the characters of the above story. They often discount themselves in all the sectors. The MP’s who hailed the historic speech on passing of the so called historic women’s reservation bill too missed it and the junta men who too do not bother of their rights. Such people can only be ruled. But Its time that we realize that Husbands too are a vote bank and a significant part of the ecosystem of the society. Only then the world and the politicians can be expected to realize that Husbands too are a potential vote bank not just them but their mothers and sisters and other family members who are vulnerable to the draconian wife centric laws that are heavily misused. People do not realize that *. The proceedings against husband are run on the tax money contributed by **% male fraternity who is reduced to an ATM for unscrupulous wives. *. Tax money is used to fund the lawyer of the litigant wife who is filing a false case against the husband. *. State fights the false criminal case directly against the Husband on behalf of the wife. *. Dowry deaths are presumed and stats are manufactured by arresting the in laws. *. Hefty sums of Alimony are negotiated in pre ***a and post ***a to give or take divorce. *. ‘No amendments for ***a misuse’ is justified with dowry deaths which already has a separate section ***b. (Even Chidambaram has justified. He is fooled by feminist because in his letter to the states he has clearly shown concern about ***a misuse. But while answering against the misuse he has taken stand on the dowry deaths.) *. People also do not realize that Husband do not have a machinery to file FIR against wife. *. That there are no suo motu punishments for the misuse of law to the wife and some jerks advice husbands to file a defamation after the long exhausting emotional, mental, financial and legal battle that takes the toll of the family socially. *. People forget that MEN too are the citizens of the country belonging to human race. **. Husbands are so deeply scripted to discount themselves hence they consider it as a crime to count upon themselves. **. Women Laws are actually wife centric and they torture the mothers and sisters of husbands as who are women too but not as per law. **. Animals have a ministry for welfare, husbands yet to have one. **. Men fund Government by paying **% of taxes yet all laws are against MEN and his biological relatives. **.etc etc etc…. Its Time we take us seriously, only then we can expect others to take this VOTE BANK seriously. Time we have Ministry for MEN. Only then we can straighten these issues out. Time we count ourselves. Time we tell the system that we are present too and get our attendance marked. “Jinesh Zaveri……”

Replies(16) | 2010-Aug-02

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joshirkh
04-Aug-10

Mr. Rohan it seem you are very scared from women then how you alive yet apko to ab tak sucide kar lena chaiye tha

upadhayay101
04-Aug-10

He is not scared from women,he is just like torch bearers.

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joshirkh this is not the right attitude to suggest some one for suicide... really shocking to see being a women you are suggesting some on go for suicide..........very shame full ..Please don't suggest any things to any body which you do not take any responsibility if he take your advice ...secondly i don't find any things wrong in rohan topic...He is pointing and putting the truth only

rohandharesh
05-Aug-10

Joshirkh, if i go by your logic, all activists and crusaders must have committed suicide because they are "scared" of their respective issues. Women like you need to accept the fact that men are fighting back and are no longer taking things lying down. You had all along enjoyed the privilege of female domination. Now, you are unable to take the fact that men are talking about their rights. Your comment has only helped me because I realise that I am on the right track.

wewillmeet
05-Aug-10

I don't think that we can directly conclude that if married men suicide rate is more than women means that married men are suffered more. "Married man suicide rate" is little bit more general data . . . .. If we want to be fair, then we should talk about "Married man suicides due to marital reasons (and side effects, if we want to include more)". May be a new ratio will popup...... . ... . .. Totally agree, Many law are quite partial. Why to talk about law, Social tendency is partial and biased too. Yesterday, got new date for case ( we asked for earlier date, he agreed and picked documents and asked is it girl's side of boy's , we said boy's.... he put document back... refused, while fact was girl didn't appear in reconciliation meeting) ..... ...... ..... Still I think that Law is not hundred percent partial........ If an educated woman and her parents give dowry...You can sue them. What I could read is that taking dowry can lead to thhree year imprisonment while ..... if educated woman and her parents give dowry (DESPITE of DEMAND) they can be put into jail for even fiivve years. ....... each and every case in highly populated India takes long time. If one wants to settle early, he will give money.

wewillmeet
05-Aug-10

Also if we think that Girls are empowered by law,reservation and rules then on the other end we should accept that Girls were/are highly abused in social aspect. ....... so don't worry.... be fair.... If there is lady in social and unprotected environment then I urge: respect,care and save them.... if some one is in a job by reservation, exploiting laws by fraudulent means, enjoying protection by feminine means then.... ******** .... they don't deserve any respect (respect which should be given because she is lady) , and you/we should be free from social and religious norms (Yatra Nari Astu Pujyante, Ramante Tatra Devataa...... won't apply ! )

rohandharesh
05-Aug-10

"I don't think that we can directly conclude that if married men suicide rate is more than women means that married men are suffered more. "Married man suicide rate" is little bit more general data . . . .. If we want to be fair, then we should talk about "Married man suicides due to marital reasons (and side effects, if we want to include more)". May be a new ratio will popup...... . ... ."---------------------------------------------------------------------------How do you guage the reasons for suicide when the laws don't permit that? A suicide of a married woman is automatically a dowry case and a cognisable offense. Cognisable means "to take cognisance" and it gets registered in the NCRB. Whereas married man commits suicide, his wife (even if she drove him to suicide) gets compensation and sympathy from society. CAN YOU BEAT THIS DISCRIMINATION?

rohandharesh
05-Aug-10

Also if we think that Girls are empowered by law,reservation and rules then on the other end we should accept that Girls were/are highly abused in social aspect. ....... so don't worry.... be fair.... If there is lady in social and unprotected environment then I urge: respect,care and save them.... if some one is in a job by reservation, exploiting laws by fraudulent means, enjoying protection by feminine means then.... ******** .... they don't deserve any respect (respect which should be given because she is lady) "-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Aren't men abused? Men are abused discreetly and its hidden; while women are abused openly (wherever it happens). Lastly, respect should be given to all - ladies and gents. Why special respect for women just because of their womenhood?

wewillmeet
05-Aug-10

Thats right that exact reason can't be determined. Its a mixed bag. While at the same time if we can't determine then we can't say that suicide was due to marriage............... why we dont use words like : employed man, unemployed man, rich man, smoker, drunkard, gambler, in debt, business losses, corruption, exploited by others, overloaded, etc .............. ................ . .. . .. . . I don't think woman's suicide is "automatically" a dowry case. While the real fact is that many "murders" too goes in cold bags. If we are talking about police and corruption... then always the surviver suffers !!!! Corrupt people makes money and that is bitter realty, they won't care the gender... do you think that Police care Girls ! .... Do you think that Ladies who seek help from NGOs (not all) get favor for free ! (financially and ****** ) .... Many people enjoy pleasures by helping girls. As small as "girls' smile" (and many other things) can make man happy......Do you think that divorced and fouur-ninnty-eigght -ladies get any social respect ?.... How many of people will get their son married to them ? Don't people help them just to explore any opportunity ! while on the other hand none will marry his son to such ladies !!! These don't get sympathy, they do get some help by few males (expecting return gift)

wewillmeet
05-Aug-10

Totally agree that both are abused. and the fact is the powerful and crooked abuses weaker one. while the powerful and good person protects weaker one.... ... . . Depends upon his/her own social-personal level ... We can see highly educated and officer ranked ladies caring family against odds. I had seen earning ladies who cook food, do all work and still happy under ruling husband .... while we had seen (read) highly crooked girls filing FOUUR NINTYY EIGHTT even in a week of marriage... and EVEN before marriage ! ..... .. . ...

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